Men's rights whitewash

Canadian Association for Equality less than forthcoming in bizarre interview



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Wow Ben, you clearly have an agenda

Ben: "Despite all evidence to the contrary men are at a societal disadvantage?" You really asked that?

You're an idiot Ben, and I'm sure you know exactly what you were doing.

The point is, and I'm sure you know it, that *some* men need help, *some* men need advice, and shelter and some recognition of the challenges and unfairness they sometimes face. Not *all* men, some men. And because some men need this and there is virtually no assistance available, or public acceptance that there is need, groups like CAFE are needed, and frankly should be supported by people like you and your publication.

I guess it's NOWs position than men can never, ever, have an unaddressed need? Nice.

Here's a thought exercise for you. Re-read your article and replace the word "Men" with "Women" and see what you think. If you can't accept that, then ask yourself what you truly feel about equality.

There is no question there are shitty men out there, and some of them start angry men's websites. There is also no question that there are shitty women, shitty priests and rabbi's, shitty government officials, and shitty people of every imaginable race, colour, creed, and religion. Only the unenlightened focus on the crimes of one race when they talk about equality.

I have witnessed, and been the recipient of, prejudice on the basis of being a man. Some women consider men simply incompetent parents on the basis of their gender, the legal profession is VERY one sided when it comes to matters of child rearing, strongly favouring the mother. The Children's Aid Society is highly biased against fathers regardless of joint or shared custody arrangements. To my horror I have witnessed it with my own eyes. How would you feel if a woman asked you, in all seriousness, how you make a ham sandwich, or exactly which steps you would follow to get a kid ready for bed. Been there. I'm a man, of course I don't know how to look after a child right? That's a fair non-gender based assumption for a government official to make right?

I have also witnessed female perpetrated spousal abuse, both physical and mental so intense that cars stopped on the street to watch. And these were my "professional" white neighbours.

And the amazing thing Ben is that I am absolutely sure you have too. Most people I talk to have but it simply doesn't 'occur' to them what it is until you ask them to reverse the roles and ask themselves if they still think it's ok.

I've been watching CAFE for a while now, I haven't donated but based on your article I think I now will. They need resources to get "around" small minded people like you, people who would simply deny that Men might need help too sometimes. Even White men.

And CAFE is right btw. Anyone who tries to talk about these issues is IMMEDIATELY attacked, stalked, harassed and put at risk (says something right there doesn't it). If you even make the point that men are sometimes treated unfairly, you're a misogynist. It's ridiculous.

EtobicokeGuy 327 days ago

what a slam piece

False accusations, attempts at muddying the water, pretty much every dirty "trick" to discredit anyone who may find any affinity to "MRA" as it has now been unjustifiably maligned here is being attacked.

Cmon Now, you USED to be facing this exact kind of bullshit. Why are you perpetuating it against new movements?

k more than 1 year ago

Men and boys exist.

Looks to me that, more and more, NOW is making itself irrelevant regarding real issues and more relevant to supporting the status quo.

binky more than 1 year ago

Equality for Men Day = Red Flags??

"Equality for Men Day would have raised some red flags". What is wrong with having a center for men and families? From statistics that I have read, there are some real issues that men face that need to be addressed. Just because they are promoting men's rights or the like does not mean that they are in any way anti-women. I was shocked to read that only in 2014 did the first clinic for men open in Toronto. Men certainly may not face the same challenges that women do but to deny them of a supportive community that aims at supporting men and families is just strange to me.

Robynne more than 1 year ago

Ben is pro-women, Denise is anti-women?

I find it funny that the man who writes this article calls this group anti-woman because the group is apparently trying to raise issues for men and boys. Yet, CAFE has a woman outreach director doing their interview!!!

You're telling us an "anti-woman" group is employing women as their main point of media contact? Seems a little out there...

Callie more than 1 year ago

employing women as their main point of media contact

The clear reason to do this is the same reason why racists have Black (or Jewish, or Middle Eastern, etc.,) defense attorneys defend them in court, depending on whom it was that they attacked. Likewise, male rapists will have female defense attorneys. It is a pure propaganda move to employ a woman "as their main point of media contact". She's being used as a LITERAL MOUTHPIECE who seems not to be able to answer simple questions on her own.

It's blatant, it's sickening, and it only fools those who are very easily fooled.

Papa Noel 316 days ago

men and boys exist

Absolutely men have no rights and therefore have no centers either. This happened to my son while his
ex moves on only to repeat the cycle of abuse . The issue is the male is always at fault and the evidence of domestic violence situation is never considered.

Maureen more than 1 year ago

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