10 reasons we need a national handgun ban

Special report: banning handguns in Canada

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LOL

I love how uninformed this is and that the numbers are out of date. There are way more guns in Canadians hands than are suggested above, nearly 20X as many in-fact. I also Love that they left out that areas with less gun restrictions typically have less crime. An example of this is that New York and Chicago, both cities with gun bans, have exponentially higher gun crime rates than places like Austin or really any southern city. OR how about that license holders go through a written test, piratical test, back ground check, verbal interview which is later verified and then a DAILY background check! That's right, if one of the 2 Million gun owners slips up they come and take their guns away.... and there are still 2 million of them.

Nice

Mike 13 days ago

hippy

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You probably vote for steven harper 19 days ago

Shaking my head

Hey, drugs are banned too, how has that worked out? Doubt it stops Go smoke another one for us gun owners. We can't be bothered with illegal activities, we have a criminal record check everyday. Where's the Liberal sense of justice for all, the Canadian Charter of Rights? They apply to everyone don't they? Are you going to suggest compensating everyone for their material possessions after they are banned and destroyed? While your riding around your righteous high horse, how about not generalizing a group of people based on the actions of a very very small minority?

Joe 44 days ago

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I like tacos, but I love porn, and I love to suck dick.

pierce 63 days ago

No Crediability part 3

9 Gun manufacturers and the gun lobby are lying to us.

“They sell us fear, telling us we need to arm ourselves for self-defence, using the very weapons that threaten us. Guns are manufactured for one reason and one reason only: to kill. Licensing and registering regimes are not protecting us from gun violence. The stats demonstrate that the threat to public safety does not depend on the intent of the user, but is related to the presence of the firearm itself.”
Too many lies here, most already addressed above… Expect for the fact that you are the one spreading lies and fear! Remember too, “when seconds count, the police are only minutes away”!

10 Gun violence creates obstacles to economic growth.

“It's pretty straightforward. The acceptance of guns and gun culture is warping the values of young people, leading to higher school dropout rates - as high as 40 per cent in disadvantaged areas of the city - and destroying the potential for investment in neighbourhoods where violence is occurring.”
Number 10 is pure fantasy. Mental illness, drug addiction, poverty and population density are the overwhelming cause of violence and “warping our youth”, not tools. If inanimate tools were responsible for violence than a scalpel would make me a surgeon, a pan would make you chef and cars would turn Canada a nation of racing drivers.

John 65 days ago

HAHAHAHAA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA blaming gun culture for high school drop out rates is both ridiculous and hilarious. First, banning licensed gun owners from having guns will not even remotely touch that problem, the other thing is gun owners want the same result as gun haters, which is peace and safety. The only difference is that gun owners inherently know more about guns that gun haters who have never fired a firearm or explored the culture.

Mike 13 days ago

No Crediability part 2

4 It's not mostly a gang thing.

“Suicides and accidental deaths from guns account for two-thirds of all firearms-related deaths in Canada. How's that for ripping a hole in your conventional wisdom? More than 20 per cent of the 4,000 suicides annually are carried out with firearms.”
Another lie! Statistics Canada says (http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/141201/dq141201a-eng.htm):
”There were 131 firearm-related homicides in 2013, down 41 from 2012. This resulted in the lowest rate of firearm-related homicide since comparable data became available in 1974…”
“Police confirmed or suspected the involvement of gangs in 85 homicides in 2013. This compares with 96 reported in the previous year and marks the first decline after three years of no change. The rate of gang-related homicide was 0.24 per 100,000 population, its lowest level since 2004.
While firearm-related homicides decreased in 2013, the number of fatal stabbings grew. There were 195 fatal stabbings, 31 more than in 2012. Stabbings accounted for 40% of all homicides in Canada in 2013.”

5 Gun violence is costing us billions.

“According to the National Public Services Research Institute, the total yearly cost associated with gunshot wounds in Canada is $6.6 billion. Suicides and attempted suicides account for the bulk of those costs ($4.7 billion); homicides and assaults are next ($1.1 billion)…”
More lies. The only National Public Research Institute I have found was founded by Jim McKnight. It is an American group with no connection to Canada.

6 Stiffer penalties and prison terms are not working.

“More cops are patrolling the streets than ever before, and crime in all other major categories is down, yet incidents of gun violence keep rising. In 2006, 1,287 young people were accused of firearms-related offences in Toronto, a 33 per cent increase over 2002.”
Most of these accused were gang members and criminals. The same people you dismiss above. Your statics are again fictitious, no such numbers exist and stiffer penalties are not working because they are only being introduced now by the federal Conservatives and not law yet. Regardless, once again if you refer to the Statistics Canada numbers, gun crime is already dropping.

7 We share the world's most porous border with the world's largest manufacturer of handguns.

“Two-thirds of all guns seized by Toronto police enter Canada illegally from the U.S., where there are 81,325 federally licensed dealers and pawnbrokers (three times the number of McDonald's franchises) and 5,500 new handguns are sold each day. At some flea markets south of the border, gun buyers don't even have to present a driver's licence.”
Let’s pretend for a moment that what you are saying here is true (it isn’t), than if we ban guns in Canada the only people who will have guns will be the criminals. Yep, we’ll be safe then!

John 65 days ago

No Crediability

1 There's way too much cold, hard steel floating around.

What does “packin' “ mean? Owning a gun and locking it in a safe? Concealed carrying it? Inflammatory, bigoted, ambiguous language does not does not equal rational argument.
There are almost 2,000,000 gun owners in Canada, of which over 726,000 are restricted license holders. Oh my, why aren’t there even more dead Canadians? The only point you are making in this statement is that Canadian gun owners are law abiding and register their guns. Statistically speaking registered gun owners are far less likely to commit any type of crime, let alone a crime with a gun. By your logic, anyone with a registered motor vehicle is destined to automatically commit a vehicular homicide. The mere presence of any technology, or tool does not automatically create a type of behavior.
“Oh no, I’ve got a hammer in my hand and I can’t stop myself from constructing”.

2 Gun dealers and the feds can't keep track of what's out there.

This is absolutely where you lost all of your credibility. You are at best a horrible researcher/reporter and at worst an agenda driven, bold faced lier. The following is an excerpt from a Statistics Canada report (http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/140423/dq140423b-eng.htm) that took me somewhere around 30 seconds to Google and load in my browser:
“According to the 1996 Firearms Report to the Solicitor General by the Commissioner of the RCMP, a total of 4,409 firearms were reported stolen during that year, of which 44 percent were restricted weapons (1996: 20). According to the same source, 65,046 firearms have been reported stolen since 1974…

Furthermore, the numbers above are virtually inconsequential, because as stated in the Stat’s Can report:

“About 2% of all violent crimes in 2012 were firearm-related, while 17% involved another type of weapon, such as a knife or blunt instrument.”

Of equal importance, despite a steady increase in gun ownership in Canada, gun crime - along with all other forms of violent crime - is significantly dropping, even with the abolition of the long gun registry (http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/11-630-x/11-630-x2015001-eng.htm).

Your article title is, “10 Reasons We Need a National Handgun Ban”, but your unverifiable assertions like, “Another 130,000 licensed gun owners who had previously registered failed or refused to register their guns after the Libs introduced a new gun registry in 98”, vaguely applies to long guns, not handguns. Handguns have been registered and regulated continuously since 1925.

3 Firearms are the third leading cause of death among young people..

Once again you lied. The third leading cause of death, under the age of 15 is congenital abnormalities, gun deaths aren’t even accounted for:
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/84-215-x/2012001/table-tableau/tbl003-eng.htm

I am not permitted more characters, so can’t continue, but you are equally wrong on all of the following 7 points.

John 65 days ago

Here are ten myths

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mythbuster 68 days ago

Ban everything

Cars can do over the speed limit ban them, ban cell phones as they cause more deaths in cars, now let's ban all alcohol as I don't drink so why should I not say that. The problem with this country is if you don't like something then it should be we should ban it. As stated below people kill people not guns and look at Calgary knives were used at a party to kill a few people so I guess kitchen knives should go on the restricted list and be locked up like my guns. That is my rant get your head out of your ***s and into the real world but you probable think pot should be legal.

Jim 79 days ago

Fraudulent Claims

The "National Public Services Research Institute" can't be found on the Internet. Good case of make it up as you go. Facts "printed" to fit the bill. If you say it often enough, it becomes the truth. The closest to this is a small scale study done by the centre for policy alternatives, who are known to put their message in front of the facts in all cases. Get this writer a jester's outfit, at least we'd see that he was trying to make us laugh as he makes it up as he goes along. Maybe just practicing for his future Conservative Senate Seat.

A Jsm 85 days ago

Bunch of crap

It's simple. Guns don't kill people, people do.

James 91 days ago

Liberals are idiots

The amount of idiocy by this dumb author (Enzo Dimatheo or whatever his name is) cannot be described into words. Guns saved a lot of lives in the US and prevented a lot of robberies. Damned Liberals think Canadians should rely on a cell phone and by the time police arrive the victim would've been dead. The presence of a gun is enough to drive off criminals. There was a gun ban in Connecticut. Later after the gun ban there was a school shooting that claimed 20 or so lives. The gun ban didn't work, didn't it?
Most crimes committed with firearms are illegally obtained guns. Of those guns that were legal, they were stolen, just like a criminal can steal a car and use it to run people over. There are actually more car related deaths in an year but I don't see you have an article proposing a ban in car ownership?
It's just not fair that an act of a criminal can affect so many law abiding citizens that were not involved, and can convince stupid Liberals like you (Enzo) guns are evil.

Jonathan Hou 95 days ago

RUBBISH!

Are you kidding me? As stated by another poster, where are the sources that support these figures??? But let's look at each point. 2-The Alberta High River fiasco where the RCMP targeted gun owner homes and seized hundreds of guns from a "dismantled" registry (of unrestricted long guns no less) during a flood evacuation suggests otherwise. Oh and btw, when a licensed individual so much as buys a round of ammo their info is recorded at point of sale. 3- Not sure where you get these figures either but statscan disagrees with you! Unless you account every unintentional injury as a stray bullet but then it would be the leading cause. Btw most sources (such as MADD and CPS) will attribute motor vehicles as the number 1 reason for youth death and injury but I don't see you calling to ban cars. 4-I can only assume that most of the blood on hospital floors are from accidents but what stat says they are from firearm accidents. BTW gang members will generally avoid hospitals since gun shot have to be reported to the police so your argument is skewed. 5-Statscan reports just under 3800 suicides a year so you're suggesting how many people botched that up to cost billions? Hey here's an idea, report on the problems leading to suicide (health, income, mom didn't hug me enough, mom hugged me too much etc). Statscan also reports the top 3 methods used are strangulation (44%) poison (25%) firearm (15%). Hey lets ban rope and just about every chemical and drug we use in our daily lives too. 6 - you can't even begin to quantify this with a straight face considering the liberals made firearm law so ambiguous that law abiding citizens are arrested more than criminals. Top catch all charge? Firearm storage...because it's not defined!!! I have a right to know what constitutes safe storage exactly, for the sake of my kids and society! If thats a 1000lbs safe and trigger locks so be it but grow a set and put it in writing. Our government OWES us that. 7 - ok can't much argue with that so maybe you need to argue for tighter borders. BTW importing a firearm into Canada from the US is so difficult most Canadian owners won't bother. There are serious consequences by both countries if you are caught trying to do it without proper documentation. Even if you have that you are still required to have a PAL licence when you return to Canada with your firearm. 8 - High River Alberta...enough said. 9 - Before guns were made to kill we had swords, bows and rocks. All used to feed the world's people. Though war is an ugly reality and a driving force in innovation, todays civil uses are hunting, shooting clays and target. I suppose technically hunting is killing though I believe you imply human deaths. The reality is that self defence laws up until now have been inadequate. Look into case law (Ian Thompson) or do believe he should have waited for police to arrive while thugs were burning his house down with him in it? Castle law should apply. You fraud!!!!

Luke 123 days ago

These are good reasons but in themselves won't work

Those reasons and implied solutions are akin to lowering carbon, greenhouse gases and other pollution to cure the looming environmental disaster by pretending we can lower individuals' footprints by 20% and increase the population by 100% which seems to be the present government & greed logic. Maybe if we reduced the population to the level matching available jobs, almost every person of working age would be gainfully employed and few would resort to crime to make a living? In years gone by did not people emigrate from Europe because there were no jobs there? Well, now we in North America need some emigration! Excessive gun crime is a result of excessive population. Simple, what politicians or Popes are going to dare state this reality?

Nick 136 days ago

Are all liberals stupid?

Why are you so scared of guns I mean honestly if you think crime doesn't happen in the UK your wrong. Cops in Hong Kong just now got their guns back after so many years and the triad war has been raging ever since the cops lost their guns

Daniil 139 days ago

Totally Ignorant

The people who want handguns banned are so stupid they actually think that getting rid of handguns and banning their ownership by law abiding citizens is going to stop crack head, drug dealers and hardcore criminals from committing murders. Does it occasionally happen where someone is shot with a registered weapon that is usually stolen yes, will banning handguns stop crime not a chance. These gangs are becoming more and more sophisticated and well funded. The Mexican cartels now control the whole county of Mexico and the vast majority of drugs entering USA and Canada. Gangs will get the guns and so will criminals. In Canada all owners must lock their guns is safes and 99.9 percent of them do and are very serious about security. Liberal city dwellers need to maybe read the report by Harvard that clearly illustrates what happens worldwide when handguns are banned, horrific crimes increase dramatically. This is fact and not fiction or fear mongering based on opinion like the original post .
Cocaine and Meth and Drugs fuel crime maybe you should look at how effective banning them is. Throughout history it has never worked when their was prohibition-alcohol or now. Perhaps we should stop letting criminals into this country and do more extensive background checks on them!

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2013/08/30/harvard-gun-study-no-decrease-in-violence-with-ban/

William 137 days ago

Credibility

Enzo, have you not the insight to see how holding that position discredits your stance on other social issues? We all know that banning alcohol caused more problems than it solved. We all know that banning weed has also had the same result. Now we are into the prostitution legalization debate. So the left says (correctly), that banning things that people want is fruitless and merely drives the whole operation underground, yet, out of the other side of your mouth you say that we don't like this other thing over here, so it's acceptable to ban it because we don't like it. Don't you realize how that hypocritical position gives the Tea Party douchebag types the ammunition (no pun intended) to continue their tirade over the legalization of pot and sex work. You can't have it both ways. (that's what she said).

Buckdesystem 139 days ago

My murdered best friend

John O'Keefe was murdered on January 12, 2008. A famous stray bullet at Yonge and Bloor. 7 years is a very long time to grieve this deeply every day. It was a registered handgun, in the hands of the registered owner. Please do not try to tell me that the outcome is the same as that of a knife. I fought and continue to fight for a handgun ban and will for the rest of my life.

Jennifer Allen 145 days ago

Forks, knives and spoons must cause obesity

People kill people. Criminals don't register guns. Bans create black markets and empower criminals.

Bob 146 days ago

Good comment

That's true criminals will become rich and there will be more crime then ever

Daniil 139 days ago

Just an observation

Perhaps it's semantics, but an awful lot of outrage in the comments couple them with the phrase "banning guns". The opinion piece never said that, it was talking specifically about handguns, which apart from some sports have only one use - to shoot people.

JC 147 days ago

"Apart from a few sports"

Well there you go. Swords also have no purpose besides a few sports, and people do absolutely use them to commit crimes. To hell with fencing I guess; one life is too high a price to pay.

EB 124 days ago

Handgun ban?

This is no report by any description. This is some idiot's opinion and an uneducated one at that. Talk about fear mongering. .. the media does it better than anyone else. There is so much outright bullshit and disinformation in this steaming pile of manure, that it's actually hard to know where to start ripping it apart. This is the type of blinkered, Philippine, pig-ignorance I would expect to read in the Huffington Post...

Paul P. 147 days ago

Banning guns in Canada

Banning Marijuana, meth, heroin, and Cocaine has worked so well, I'm sure banning guns will keep them out of the hands of drug importers. Banning legal guns that cause no problem is a total waste of money and resources.

Lorne 147 days ago

I'd like to know where these facts came from and would like sources because as far as I know , 93.2 percent of journalist who write biased articles don't know wtf they're talking about lol

I'd like to know where these facts came from and would like sources because as far as I know , 93.2 percent of journalist who write biased articles don't know wtf they're talking about lol but if we re going to be ignorant lets look at the amount of crime committed with a knife and how many people haven't registered them blah blah blah blah blah.................................,

Matt 147 days ago

If you ban guns the only ones without guns are the legal gun owners. Now if you or any one can tell me how we are going to sop bad guys from getting guns I would listen. We already know banning guns doesn't work. Just ask Australia how their ban worked.

stop the insanity.

Gordon 148 days ago

Gun Bans Don't Work

Once again we have a person claiming bans and paper laws prevent crime. When will you learn that banning decent people from owning guns makes bad people ten times more powerful, and illicit guns more profitable to smuggle, sell and use. The Utopian idea that you can legislate bad things away by banning something that can be manufactured, simply enforces historical evidence to the contrary. Banning alcohol during the prohibition era created gangs and an organised crime wave. The British armed forces could not disarm the Irish in 500 years of conflict; and the Pathans in Peshawar can manufacture AK47's on foot operated lathes. Sorry, this ban argument was lost years ago, and trying to resurrect it reminds me of what Einstein opined. "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results"

Dave Lever 148 days ago

Time for change

While other parties are talking real politics the NDP is engaging in a political sideshow with non issues.

They just aren't electable in Canada. The only thing the NDP represents is the waste of a vote.

bob 183 days ago

Another fan of and the rest of the mass murderers that all thought and think taking guns from honest citizens is a good idea

More lies. Another fan of Hitler and the rest of the mass murderers who have all thought that taking the guns from honest citizens was a great idea.
Taking the guns from non criminal owner is stupid and theft.
Just read some history. Never, not even once has a society that has taken the weapons from the citizens not spiraled into and nightmare for the citizens. Wakey, wakey fools and don't fall for this crap!!!

Stephen 197 days ago

Propaganda

Enough already, normal people are smarter than this scared pansy.

Keith 198 days ago

Half the Points are not even Vaild

1. Of course the majority of guns seized are illegal. Most people who own guns legally use them for hunting. Why bother getting it legaly when you are going to do something illegal.
2. Gun Education should be a priority over restriction. Sadly suicide is a great example, these guns should be kept safetly locked up and family members should be aware and not allow access if someone is not in a position mentally or physically.
3. Saying our justice system isn't working properly is a very broad statement. Generally career criminals always end up going back. (According to Canadian Public Saftey "increases in recidivism for 3 of 4 outcomes" and "data showed a 7% increase in recidivism " (http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/ffcts-prsn-sntncs-rcdvsm/index-eng.aspx#eff3)) Meaning stiffer penaties just mean a higher chance of it repeating.
4. Gun could really help economic growth. Gun companies could create jobs and add to our economy. Also stateing the drop out rates are as high as 40 in voilent areas, just means we need to focus efforts on keeping kids in school or reducing violence all together. The actual point doesn's even relate to guns.
5. The point on number 3 is also skewed as stabbing related crimes accound for one third of all homicides in Canada. Where in Canada a gun was only present in violent crimes 17% of the time. This means knifes are about twice as likely to be uses in violent crimes rather than a firearm.
6. Education is key with firearms. Children and adults alike should all be taught proper saftey and handling when it comes to firearms of all kinds. Not just long guns, but handguns and such.

We dont have to be scared of guns but embrace the idea that they can protect us simply by being there and knowing that they are kept in a secure safe place. We should also feel safe knowing that we and our families know how to properly deal with a firearm and handle it safetly thus reducing the number of "accidents" due to carelessness. They are not toys, they are tools.

Luke I 201 days ago

aimed responseg

This time im sorry but i really dont feel like educating anti gun people today so in response
the only thing i can say is that whoever wrote this article was on large doses of crack cocaine

beethoven 207 days ago

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